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Kris



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 16:53    Post subject: More in depth reviews. Reply with quote

The Hard Fi album is ok!

The Ambulance Ltd album is slightly better than ok but not much!

Almost more words there than the average NME review.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 19:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sufjan Stevens is ace
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 19:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love the ambulance ltd album!!! its been played relentlessly in our house for over a year now and we still dig it!! its nothing new nor radical but its pretty top

i'm getting hard-fi tomorrow - am planning on seeing them in october too so i hope its ok!

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Almost more words there than the average NME review.


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did anyone see the nme documentary? it was good, all the editors came across as interesting if not necessarily likeable until the current one - he came across as a posh dullard with no sense of style or passion at all - nme used to be a yoof thing that even old people like me never tired of but now its crap and seems to assume its readers have no attention span whatsoever.

makes me glad i can afford internet access - can't rely on nme no more.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man I disagree that NME docu seemed to be about a pan generational bunch of twats, apart from Maconie and Lamaque who seemed cool and not up their own arse hipster tossers. F**ckin Paolo Hewitt was an insult to the word smug
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 19:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

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did anyone see the nme documentary?


Not yet, but being on BBC4 or summat it's bound to be on numerous times and i intend to catch it.

I think nme's a generational thing as much as anything. I still believe the style and tone of the mag when Andrew Collins, Stuart Maconie, Steve Lamacq and Simon Williams were writing in the late 80's/ early 90's to be the best ever. They were certainly my fave journos.

Honourable mentions though to Johnny Cigarettes and Steven Wells who often made me laugh too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 20:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last chance to see the documentary is tonight:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/nme.shtml

Steven Wells writes some articles for football magazine FourFourTwo these days, I never liked his music writing but his football stuff is good. I wish I was called Johnny Cigarettes. David Cavanagh was my favourite music journalist, loads of the albums I bought in the mid 90's were because of his reviews.

There's a book about the history of the music press called 'In Their Own Write' which is well worth reading if you can find a copy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 21:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was always a Melody Maker devotee myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 00:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i'd agree Nick Kent was a bit of a tit and that Pablo wotsit is one (and he ain't much cop as a writer) but the others had sparkle. Johnny Cigarettes and Steven Wells were always my faves but trawls through them nme archive mag things shows just how good some of the punk writers were - Don't like Julie Burchill much but some of her reviews - particularly on Blondie - were class. I like Paul Morley too but, gawd, he don't 'alf go on (i've given up on Nothing!) I was never sure of Cavanagh, his reviews were trustworthy and his pen on House of Love is a fine example of passionate writing but i hated his coffee columns in Select. Though no one could compete with Maranda Sawyer in that magazine...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 00:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

and another thing! not sure about the generation arguement - i think that applies to radio 1 but not to music press. for pretty much most of my life nme has always aligned to youth or movements, has been almost as much about life as music and really did offer an outlet for talented writers, it doesn't do that now though i'm sure there's people in the generation its supposed to appeal to the most who'd want it to be more than soundbite reviews and popstar arse licking.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 08:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I mean is that like John Mc says about Cavanagh leading him to buy numerous albums, the writers I liked led me in the same way.

Nowadays I wouldn't buy an album on the strength of an nme review And maybe that's because back then the only way to hear much of the stuff I liked was to buy it outright. It was Peel or nothing, so you had to trust the judgement of your favourite writers. And much as I liked Collins et al I've still got a small portion of my record collection that contains shite thanks to them.

Today there is so much choice, I mean for example, our very own Kinkster has heard the SFA newie and it's at least a month from the shops. I'm sure if I put in some effort I could hear it too. Why rely on an nme review the week before? For the kids of today it's, well, a bit to late and a bit too antiquitated. And for me I just don't trust their judgement.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 08:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno about Hard-Fi... I find the album a bit "suburban". But I'm probably just a bitter old fucker.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 08:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do like the try before you buy method too, just make sure you buy what you like kids!

And I don't put any effort in - I let my brother do all of that Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 17:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm going to the lollapolooza festival next weekend. Hard-fi are playing on the saturday so i shall try and check them out. Not overly impressed with the one song that i heard so far though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 02:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

always liked david quantick. he once described listening to a nine inch nails album as 'sellotaping a jam jar full of wasps to each ear and throwing a bucket of cutlery down the stairs.'

funny and correct. winning combination.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 14:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm listening to the new Röyksopp album and it's good. Slightly cheesy in places I guess, but that's ok. They also use a sample that I recognise from my Korg ES-1 sampler that is particularly cheesy of a woman saying 'OK'.

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