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Setareh Juventina
Joined: 01 Dec 2002 Posts: 1415 Location: Norrköping, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 20:25 Post subject: I don't know if it's a mistake validating a system I don't.. |
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..believe in but I've registered to vote in the USA and they've sent me the ballots that should arrive any day.
Bush being president concerns all of us so I decided to go for it.
Amor y Paz _________________ Man is the only animal clever enough to build The Empire State Building and stupid enough to jump from it. |
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Dubya - T
Joined: 27 Aug 2002 Posts: 559 Location: Floatin' down the greasy grass river
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 21:52 Post subject: |
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How come?
Can I do that?
Don't you believe in voting? It's got to be better than the alternative where the biggest psychopath with the biggest gun will take over and form a dictatorship. Just look at every tinpot banana rebublic in the world.
The voting system in this country is wrong. That's how we get an idiot like Blair in charge, despite not having an overall majority of the votes.
Actually, Bush is in charge isn't he.
"The cold war is gone, but those bastards will find us another one. They're here to protect us, don't you know, so GET USED TO IT!" _________________ We would like to announce that due to cutbacks the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off..... |
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Setareh Juventina
Joined: 01 Dec 2002 Posts: 1415 Location: Norrköping, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 20:52 Post subject: |
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I don't believe in the American voting system with the electoral college (or whatever it's called, excuse my ignorance, I do know the system though, just unsure about the name).
Al Gore got the most votes last time, regardless of Bush cheating or not. This is because of the system. It's not really democracy if the majority's wish doesn't rule.
My vote may actually be 'in vain' anyway since Kerry will probably win California with or without my help. Which is the problem. The popular vote should decide it.
Also, there's a side of me that thinks it doesn't matter what anybody votes, the CIA or someone else fakes it anyway. But I don't know.
I can vote because I am an American citizen by birth so I doubt you can. Unless you are an American citizen.
Love & Peace _________________ Man is the only animal clever enough to build The Empire State Building and stupid enough to jump from it. |
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Dubya - T
Joined: 27 Aug 2002 Posts: 559 Location: Floatin' down the greasy grass river
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 21:25 Post subject: |
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We have exactly the same problem. Whoever gets the most "seats" is in government. That is not necessarily the party with the majority share of the vote overall. It doesn't help having three parties as that just splits the opposition vote.
I remeber back when Clinton got elected, somebody (it might have been Michael Franti from spearhead, but then again I've an idea it could have been Michael Stipe!) said, Voting for Bush (snr) or Clinton is a bit like deciding wether you want to be hit with a sledgehammer or just a baseball bat!.
Now Bush has told Blair that he's fed up with Americans geting it in Iraq so would he mind sending the british troops into the dangerous bit. Blair has, of course, obliged. Isn't it time he pulled the UK out on the grounds that he was misled? Although anybody with half a brain could see that the "evidence" was bullshit.
More worringly, Blair has recently admitted that the intelligence on which he based his decision to involve the UK in Iraq "was flawed". He admitted that the "45 minute" claim was wrong. Now, I seem to remember a huge fuss about this which caused several senior figures at the BBC to resign and a man to commit suicide, or be "silenced" which is not beyond the realms of possibility.
How can he sleep?
The following was written in 1983 about Northern Ireland, although but I think it's just as relevant when you apply it to Iraq (Iraq's flag is a tricolour of sorts):
"Your mother sits on the edge of the world
When the cameras start to roll
Panoramic viewpoint resurrect the killing fold
Your father drains another beer, he's one of the few that cares
Crawling behind a Saracen's hull from the safety of his living room chwair
Forgotten sons, forgotten sons, forgotten sons
And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour
I must fear evil, for I am but mortal and mortals can only die
Asking questions, pleading answers from the nameless faceless watchers
That stalk the carpeted corridors of Whitehall
Who orders desecration, mutilation, verbal masturbation
In the guarded bureaucratic wombs
Minister, minister care for your children, order them not into damnation
To eliminate those who would trespass against you
For whose is the kingdom, the power, the glory forever and ever, Amen" _________________ We would like to announce that due to cutbacks the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off..... |
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Setareh Juventina
Joined: 01 Dec 2002 Posts: 1415 Location: Norrköping, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 21:30 Post subject: |
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There are many politicians and corporate frogs I'd like to meet just to ask them how they live with themselves and how they sleep at night.
Amor y Paz (someday) _________________ Man is the only animal clever enough to build The Empire State Building and stupid enough to jump from it. |
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mixedcasesspaces
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Location: In the bin, wriggling around with the apple cores
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 15:01 Post subject: |
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On a far less serious note, I was really pissed off by the MP on the news last night defending the tens of thousands of pounds (it was £10,000 or £20,000, can't remember) that he claims from the taxpayer for a second house in central London, when the train journey back home to his proper house is only 22 minutes (ok, plus time to get to and from the train).
He seriously didn't seem to see the problem with that! I travel 50 minutes to work every day and although it's not fun it's a fairly reasonable thing to do I'd say.
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LoneStranger
Joined: 23 May 2003 Posts: 127 Location: South Wales
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 19:01 Post subject: |
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The main problem I have with democracy is that success in politics, particularly in America, is related to wealth and shallow facets of human nature.
Completely unrelated I know, but work booked me for a BUPA medical and I refused it. Everyone thinks I'm mad. I just can't accept that the level of healthcare you receive should relate to wealth (even if Im not paying for it, I'm still lining someones pocket). I'm not gonna budge on it - I've got to take a stand at some point in my life, and it starts here.
Tra-la-la..... _________________ Find a job you like, and add five days to every week. |
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