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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 00:58 Post subject: |
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I take it all back about Euro 2008, that game last night was offensively bad. I gouged my eyes out so I didn't have to watch extra time and would have sawed my ears off so I couldn't hear the commentary but I wasn't able find a saw due to the earlier eye removal. Learn from my mistake kids and do the ears first. |
You're right about the Sunday night's game, John, it was truly shite, but apart from a few poor games, I think it's been a fantastic tournament so far!
We've seen some excellent matches with very dramatic endings, great goals, and even some pretty good referees for once... It's been nice to see referees that don't stop the game after every little foul and clear dive (it's no wonder Italy and Portugal are out ), in fact I think they could now give free kicks a bit more often. And I still don't get it why some of the referees stop the game immediately when someone's feigning an injury.
Only three games left now, I hope they'll be exciting games as well. I kind of enjoyed the final four years ago (Greece vs Portugal) despite the lack of goals, but the other WC/EC finals during the last 10 years have been disappointing. I'm hoping for a Germany vs Russia final, I think that could be an entertaining game. Spain have been a bit disappointing, their attacking play is ineffective and not as imaginative as I would have thought, so I hope they'll get knocked out by Russia on Thursday.
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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 16:07 Post subject: |
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Germany 3 - 2 Turkey
0-1 Boral - 22 mins.
1-1 Schweinsteiger - 27 mins.
2-1 Klose - 79 mins.
2-2 Senturk - 86 mins.
3-2 Lahm - 90 mins.
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like another thriller, unfortunately I couldn't watch this one but I did listen to it on the radio. Apparently they were having some technical problems anyway, so I didn't miss too much.
I think I'm gonna miss tonight's match too though...
Turkey were apparently the better team, especially on the first half, and Germany were a bit lucky to win. The Turks almost made another wonderful comeback, but Philipp Lahm's last minute winner crushed their hopes.
http://sotube.blogspot.com/2008/06/video-germany-vs-turkey-3-2-euro-2008.html
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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 05:58 Post subject: |
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Russia 0 - 3 Spain
0-1 Xavi - 50 mins.
0-2 Guiza - 73 mins.
0-3 Silva - 82 mins.
This was a bit disappointing, I was expecting more from Russia after the excellent Holland match. I didn't see this game either, just listened to it on the radio, but it sounded like Spain really deserved to win. I really thought that Russia would fight back after the first goal, but unfortunately they're the kind of a team that gives up when things aren't going their way.
Oh well, Germany and Spain in the final then. Not a big surprise really, and I don't know who I want to win. Germany have already been Euro champions three times (and Spain just once, 44 years ago) and been in the final six times, so normally I would support the other team. But there's something that I don't like about Spanish football...
Also, the Germans have more players that I like in their team, so it's a tough decision.
Anyway, I just hope that we'll see an entertaining game with some goals on Sunday, nothing could be worse than a boring 0-0 game.
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discoRdance
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 20:51 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
discoRdance wrote: |
Sweden were that poor. They were absolutely hopeless going forward and were all over the place at the back. And how you can compare a 3-3 game with a 2-0 game as regards excitement, I don't know. |
The amount of goals isn't always the most important thing either.
I didn't say that Sweden vs Russia was better than the Liverpool CL final, it certainly wasn't that good. But it was still an excellent game, Russia's attacking play is just amazing to watch.
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true, you can have an exciting 0-0, even (no, really!)
but when one team doesn't score and the other does? never gonna compare to 3-3... or, should I say, the 3-3 in question (not to mention compared to the 2-0 in question)!
Sweden were rubbish... Liverpool 9-0 Crystal Palace was so boring that when it was released on video, they only put 60 minutes of it on the tape! there was never any real drama about who would win between Sweden and Russia, which would be one of the reasons why a 0-0 can still be exciting.
anyway...
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discoRdance
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 20:59 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
Is it just me and discoRdance here who are watching Euro 2008?  |
I couldn't even watch the Holland v Russia game except for the occasional look. I had to miss the extra-time entirely, and wasn't happy to learn Holland had lost, considering I was going there the following afternoon! Needless to say, when RVN scored, it was the first time I'd ever been happy to see him score a goal
Spain vs Italy was like a first round, first game all over again... thank god the negative Italians didn't win through this time! (sorry, Che )
I also had to miss Germany v Turkey due to being on an airplane during it, meh. |
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discoRdance
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 21:03 Post subject: |
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anyone who's watched Peter Crouch a fair bit would know he's easily worth that. Next you'll be telling us that Barnsley should be voted team of the year
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discoRdance
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 21:15 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
there's something that I don't like about Spanish football |
Spain's passing was a joy to watch last night, fully deserved the win, and all three goals were brilliantly worked. If only Aragones didn't treat Torres and Fabregas so poorly. Still, I think Spain have been the best team in this tournament. I don't think anyone else has been as good all over the pitch (goalkeeper included -- you rarely win things with a dodgy 'keeper, and hopefully that Jens Lehmann clown proves me right on Sunday!) and after Ballack's goal against Portugal which should never have been allowed, and then a depleted Turkey playing them off the park in the following game (by most peoples' accounts), I think it would be an injustice for Germany to win the tournament. Spain actually looked the best they've looked since beating Russia 4-1 when David Villa (the tournaments' top scorer so far) had to go off and Fabregas took his place, and controlled their forward play, with Torres looking very menacing ahead of him before bizarrely being withdrawn again with a goal looking imminent such was Spain's dominance. Most people were tipping Russia before this game, too, so well done Spain and good luck in the final.
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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 22:32 Post subject: |
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I bet you only like Spain because of Torres.
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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 22:42 Post subject: |
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discoRdance wrote: |
anyone who's watched Peter Crouch a fair bit would know he's easily worth that. Next you'll be telling us that Barnsley should be voted team of the year
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Nah, Peter Crouch is hardly worth £9m, all British players with some experience are so overpriced, I can't believe that Benitez has said that he's worth "at least £15m". Of course Benitez is expected to say things like that so that they get more money if they sell him, but still...
I'd rather have 1/5 of Zidane in my team than one Peter Crouch.
And Barnsley don't deserve a team of the year award in my opinion, although some sort of a best team performance of the year (in a single game) would probably be deserved.  _________________
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discoRdance
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 02:12 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
I bet you only like Spain because of Torres.
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I note you didn't say because of Torres, Reina, Alonso and Arbeloa! I don't care too much about any international team other than that of my own country, really... and aside from my own country, I mostly want to see someone who hasn't won this tournament before or who hasn't won anything in a long time, and Spain are as good as anyone right now. The usual suspects of Italy, France (based on the last 10 years anyway), and to a slightly lesser extent, Germany, aren't the teams they were, while Holland's defence was always going to be their undoing. Croatia may have been a tad overrated, and Russia are very hit and miss, too. Whoever wins the final, Turkey can come away with their heads held as high as anyone, despite not making it to the last game. A Spain vs Turkey final would have been preferable to me, and you'll know that Liverpool don't have any Turkish players. I've always liked the way Spain play football anyway.
You, on the other hand, mostly have time for Liverpool because of big Sami  |
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discoRdance
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 02:17 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
Nah, Peter Crouch is hardly worth £9m, all British players with some experience are so overpriced, I can't believe that Benitez has said that he's worth "at least £15m". Of course Benitez is expected to say things like that so that they get more money if they sell him, but still...
I'd rather have 1/5 of Zidane in my team than one Peter Crouch.
And Barnsley don't deserve a team of the year award in my opinion, although some sort of a best team performance of the year (in a single game) would probably be deserved.  |
in the current market, yes, Crouch is worth at least £9m. He didn't play very often last season, simply because Torres was on fire (not literally), but finished as Liverpool's top scorer the season before, and when he did play last season, he never let the team down and chipped in with a fair few goals, too. He's also been England's top scorer in recent times, showing up the likes of Wayne Rooney, who went years, not just games, without scoring... and all in spite of being made out to be a freak (because of his height) to start off with and getting booed by the so-called England fans.
oh, and Barnsley got lucky against Liverpool in the FA Cup, with a last minute winner and a goalkeeper that had the game of his life (so much so, that he was awarded 'player of the round') - everyone knows that. So, player of the round, not team performance of the year based on one game is probably it  |
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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 08:00 Post subject: |
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You, on the other hand, mostly have time for Liverpool because of big Sami  |
Actually, I started "liking" Liverpool because of Jari Litmanen.
And I almost started disliking them as well for wasting Litmanen's precious time. Houllier was a good manager, but he couldn't recognise a
star
central midfielder when he saw one.
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I note you didn't say because of Torres, Reina, Alonso and Arbeloa! |
Hmm, to be honest, I didn't even know that they play in the national team, apart from Torres of course. I think Alonso was subbed in for the end of the second half on Thursday, but have Arbeloa and Reina even played so far?
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Tommy BOO
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 08:07 Post subject: |
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discoRdance wrote: |
oh, and Barnsley got lucky against Liverpool in the FA Cup, with a last minute winner and a goalkeeper that had the game of his life (so much so, that he was awarded 'player of the round') - everyone knows that. So, player of the round, not team performance of the year based on one game is probably it  |
Well, they should have had a last minute penalty anyway, the referee was a big coward when he didn't give it, I can't believe that he could miss that. The goalkeeper had a game of his life indeed, but Liverpool can only blame themselves for bad finishing...
Anyway, I wasn't referring to the Liverpool game this time, I meant the Chelsea game, where Chelsea were
outclassed
by Barnsley.
Of course Kayode Odejayi, who had never even won a Man of the Match award before, was awarded 'player of the round' that time, but that's just because he scored the winning goal. The whole team were magnificent that day, especially the defence, Chelsea never even looked like scoring!
I may be biased, but that's
got to be
(one of) the most shocking result(s) of last season in English football.
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discoRdance
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 15:35 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
discoRdance wrote: |
You, on the other hand, mostly have time for Liverpool because of big Sami  |
Actually, I started "liking" Liverpool because of Jari Litmanen.
And I almost started disliking them as well for wasting Litmanen's precious time. Houllier was a good manager, but he couldn't recognise a
star
central midfielder when he saw one.
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I note you didn't say because of Torres, Reina, Alonso and Arbeloa! |
Hmm, to be honest, I didn't even know that they play in the national team, apart from Torres of course. I think Alonso was subbed in for the end of the second half on Thursday, but have Arbeloa and Reina even played so far?
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I was gonna say Litmanen as well but decided not to labour the point Litmanen was past his best and struggling with injuries at Anfield but he did show the occasional flash of brilliance at Liverpool. Speaking of star central midfielders, Steven Gerrard came through under Houllier's tenure... but I don't think he had much time for 'luxury' players, brilliant one game, invisible the next.
I mentioned all four Liverpool players in the Spain squad with regard to three of them not getting starts as a way of saying I might consider them to be unlucky to get a game. Alonso was said to be man of the match in their third game, he came on as a sub against Russia in the semi-final and may have played a part other times, too. Reina and Arbeloa both started against Greece. You only have to see the quick, one-touch passing of the Spain team, to admire them. I'm not sure what you have to dislike about them. |
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discoRdance
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 15:42 Post subject: |
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Tommy BOO wrote: |
discoRdance wrote: |
oh, and Barnsley got lucky against Liverpool in the FA Cup, with a last minute winner and a goalkeeper that had the game of his life (so much so, that he was awarded 'player of the round') - everyone knows that. So, player of the round, not team performance of the year based on one game is probably it  |
Well, they should have had a last minute penalty anyway, the referee was a big coward when he didn't give it, I can't believe that he could miss that. The goalkeeper had a game of his life indeed, but Liverpool can only blame themselves for bad finishing...
Anyway, I wasn't referring to the Liverpool game this time, I meant the Chelsea game, where Chelsea were
outclassed
by Barnsley.
Of course Kayode Odejayi, who had never even won a Man of the Match award before, was awarded 'player of the round' that time, but that's just because he scored the winning goal. The whole team were magnificent that day, especially the defence, Chelsea never even looked like scoring!
I may be biased, but that's
got to be
(one of) the most shocking result(s) of last season in English football.
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about my post above: I'd like to clarify that I don't consider late goals to be 'lucky' although it does help to score a goal that late because there's little or no time for a comeback. Yeah, Barnsley should have had a late penalty against Liverpool. Whether they'd have scored it is another matter, though! And what game am I supposed to think you mean with all that winking
I forget what side Liverpool put out against them, but I know they had the CL game against Inter Milan a few days later to worry about. Chelsea on the other hand had Derby County up next, so yeah, Barnsley deserve credit for that win. Chelsea had a pretty strong line-up out, too. Guess they didn't fancy the Barnsley pitch. |
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